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Old 03-23-2017
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Default Broken transom!! Is it all over??

Hi Go-Fly & Turboadict,
First time I've started a thread but wanted to note you guys for your help so far.
There's no plate on my Winder so I don't know what it's specs are but from the site contacts it's a real one and I've now found another photo online of one exactly like mine. Now I know I have a 18' SS (its an outboard) and I've had for 30 years.
The transom is cracked and it's visible from the inside only (so far anyway).
I've got my hands on lifting frame and winch block so now the motor can come off. Either way with the repairs I have to do this (insurance or not) but it seems insurance won't cover transoms.
I'm going too put up some pics that are "before" any work is started.
Welcome to opinions or experience in this game as I have no idea what I'm getting myself into.
Even If I have to buy another hull (for now) I want to fix up my pride and joy.
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Old 03-23-2017
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Default Re: Broken transom!! Is it all over??

It doesn't look too bad from the pics. You could get lucky and it's just the fibreglass has delaminated from the wood. Lucky as in you might be just able to cut out the fibreglass that has pulled away and if the wood is good then fibreglass over the area again. Can't tell until some of that crack gets cut back.
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Yeah its not too bad on surface. But the transom moves unbelievably when I cut the power!! It looks like the motor is just going to pull off the back and sink.
I'll put up a pic of it as it is now. The exterior paint is just flaking off from the flexing in the fibreglass.
I'm away this weekend but as soon as I get a chance I'm going to do the test hole drilling. Those holes will be easy to repair but I know there's no quick fix here. This repair is definitely going to be a winter project. My fibreglass experience is limited to the windscreen I made for it after the original one crazed out then cracked down the middle.

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Default Re: Broken transom!! Is it all over??

Lets get some test holes drilled first. You should get clean wood chips out of the holes. If no wood chips come out or black soft wood comes out, we need to talk more on what your next steps will be. If you can see the motor flexing, there is a good chance the wood inside the transom is all but gone. Take one step at a time and start with the test holes.
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Hi Go-Fly,
I've been away this weekend for my god daughters birthday (couldn't miss that one!). I've got this weekend free so test holes it is. I'll start right along the visible crack and was thinking both sides of it, say an 1" off?? I can't find the old thread where I first brought this up but I think I was told 1/8" dia. Happy to go bigger if I have to. I'll probably end up cutting well outside this space anyway.
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Go Fly is on it. Lets see whats inside.
Not the end of the world bud.
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The hull is the foundation...once you have it you can make it how you want.
Shit, look what someone did with my hull.
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Thanks Turbo,
People say that they can lose sleep over these things. I noticed the other night I woke up and I'd been going over it while asleep! I'm want to do the repairs no matter what, but it's big deal for someone with my limited experience.
Once these test holes are done it'll be you guys deciding if my baby has done its last run. I love Grizzly and the memories its given me (including a wife that's as attached as I am) our first date that wasn't "dinner" was skiing!! But there's no point in flogging a dead horse.
I can buy another boat but it'll never be the same. Thanks for the support.
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I still think about my boat before bed. LOL
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The hull is the foundation...once you have it you can make it how you want.
Shit, look what someone did with my hull.
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Yeah its not too bad on surface. But the transom moves unbelievably when I cut the power!! It looks like the motor is just going to pull off the back and sink.
I'll put up a pic of it as it is now. The exterior paint is just flaking off from the flexing in the fibreglass.
I'm away this weekend but as soon as I get a chance I'm going to do the test hole drilling. Those holes will be easy to repair but I know there's no quick fix here. This repair is definitely going to be a winter project. My fibreglass experience is limited to the windscreen I made for it after the original one crazed out then cracked down the middle.

The give way is the Aluminum backing plate to reinforce the transom spreading the weight over a broader surface area...I am surprised there are not the same on the inside.

In a way it is a simple fix but it is also a lot of work and put of it you have done if you have pulled the motor.

Remove the seats. drill all the rivets on the rub rail, remove the windshield and frame Carefully and store it well.

Pull the deck off the hull and store it flat.

Now look up Seacast Transom Repair or look up Transom repair with Plywood......Seacast will require the bad wood to be removed completely, some holes filled and new holes drilled later.

https://www.transomrepair.net/

Otherwise with a cut off wheel cut the inside of the transom off and scrap all the bad wood out. Make a new Transom out of a couple pieces of Marine plywood and fit into the transom. Fiberglass and reinforce the new transom in place.

http://bateau2.com/howto/transom_repair/index.php

Good luck and I doubt you will find another Sidewinder hull in any better condition...Just spend the time fixing what you have and make it better than it was 40 some years ago.

Pride of ownership and having a classic old boat.



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Default Re: Broken transom!! Is it all over??

So Grizz..... What have you found?
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The hull is the foundation...once you have it you can make it how you want.
Shit, look what someone did with my hull.
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